Let us analyze this thing in depth.
a) According to the restriction which stops consulting
New york city--- Desi Companies will be affected. They will not be able bring H1-B.
CDI, RCG, Bearing Point, Datanomics, .... ..... ... .. there are 1000s of middle vendor which supply the Desi labor to the Wall street companies and more.
I am just talking about NYC. These laborer comes from desi comapnies.
With restriction...desi cannot bring H1-B..the middle vendors are screwed and hence the clients. Due you have an idea how many Indians work for the financial companies that are not a direct hire.
If you stop consulting Wall street's wall will fall. The work that a desi can do in 1 day an american would take three days. At least in my company they have realized it.
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But, if we are all willing to put our hearts and minds to it we can surely come up with new ideas that will help our cause. Surely, laws are written so that justice can happen. So if justice is not happening, the law would have some answer, somewhere.
Let me put forward my idea.
The INA language says that until EB2 is not current, there will be no spillover to EB3. Agreed. But I would contend that this statement is on a year to year basis. That is, if in the year 2002 (for example) all EB2 has been satisfied, then the spillovers should go to year 2002 EB3.
Is this something IV can point out and fight for? Can EB3 members put their money and efforts in this direction? Let me know if this sounds worthwhile
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Keep in mind two things. Many, quite possibly most of the July VB fiasco filed 485s have not been processed yet, Eb2 or EB3 India. There have been more recently (in the past couple of months) but still not most. A good number of those filers had earlier PDs.
The quarterly statutory quota for EB2 I or C is so puny (something like 700 visas) that any movement would almost entirely be dependent on the Eb1 and EB2ROW overflow. That is why I feel, once this next two months pass, we will see dates back in 2004 for EB2. Maybe not quite back in April, but sometime in the middle to later 2004. However we could see PDs move at a healthy clip for EB2 I and C next year. It will take most of next years overflow to clear up the EB2 backlog in my view.
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I agree and I support. maybe as some have said that online don't have the same impact ..but there is no harm in doing something extra. also, we will be able to get more supporters for online especially if we send the links to our respective friends, batchmates etc
It�s 5:10 Am and I had to forcefully get out of my bed after 3 snoozes ( the fact is 4th snooze my wife will kick me out of bed anyways) . While walking out of the bed I was jealous of my wife that she need not get up early & go to work as we recently had a baby & she had to leave the job as she was under contract on EAD & not full time. As soon as I came out of shower I was feeling very fresh , energetic & was already planning my day schedule at work while I was getting ready.
6:00 AM: I am all dressed up for work & while I am already late for my train & taking quick bites of breakfast , I ran upstairs to my bed room to give a goodbye kiss to my wife & daughter. While kissing my daughter I just wanted to stare at her for some more time but had to leave as I was late. & ran back to garage & started my car & zoooommmmmm. I know the back routes to station & I know police wont catch me even if I am speeding ( I was going 65mph in 30 mph zone ). While I was already half way to station I realized & said to myself NOT AGAIN ( I did not turn off lights in the house & this really pisses of my wife ) I forgot to Switch off in the bath room, upstairs corridor, stiars, main hall, kitchen,. I left lights on literally everywhere including garage except the 3 bed rooms.
6:20AM : Reached the station, parked the car & while I knew there is only 2 min left before I miss the train , I ran to newspaper walla bought the newspaper & literally ran on escalator & just got in the train & the door closed behind me. I guess this happens atleast 2-3 times a week & hey I think I got used to it.
Once I am in the train I had relax for 5 min to to take breath from running on escalators & then I read the headlines & said nyah same old stuff which was showed at 9PM news last night & didn�t bother to read any more , I opened up business edition & completed & it was frustrating to see that DOW tumbled gain, forclosure on rise, no hopes for good market in 2009 blah blah blah blah blah & then I closed my eyes & started day dreaming about my daughter, her cute smile & thinking about my upcoming trip to india as it will be the first time I am visiting after my baby was born. Just when I though I was falling into sweet dreams I heard this announcement from train operator � Abhey salla utto , tumahara station aagya, jaakey kuch kaam kar� I will translate this in English for non indians ( good morning ladies & gentlemen you have reached station �xyz� & Thank you for riding with us & we wish to see you again�)
6:56 Am: As soon as I am out of station the first place I go is starbucks, & get a non fat grande mocha with 2% extra hot no foam with little bit of honey & cinnamon. ( KIDDING , I just take plain regular coffee with room ). The first sip is amazing it feels like first cigg after a bottle of beer & started walking to my office which is very close to station.
7:00Am: I am in office. Usually it is just me & couple of other guys on the floor at that time. The office was silent & it was open floor plan with flat cubicles & you see the entire floor even if you sit at your desk. Logged into PC & checked my emails & getting prepared for the days work.
7:10Am: I saw one of the senior manager in office & it is very unusal for him to come so early into the office. While I wished him good morning he didn�t seemed to respond the way he usually does. He then walked up to one of the office colleague in different department next to me & asked him if he could come to his office.
7:15Am: The guy walks out of the office along with manager with packet in his hand & started packing his stuff right away. I could see that his computer is still logged in & I guess he was not even allowed to log off. The manager stands behind him, occasionally helps him in his packing & walks him out of the door, into the elevator & outside the building. That�s it, my heart started beating heavily, I said to my self �today is the day� . Yes by now you all know what I was talking about !!! LAYOFFS�
The talks have been going for several days & no one except top senior executives knew who & how many people will be laid off. Everyone I talk to in the company is worried, it did not matter if he was senior, working in company since 10 years, experienced , the best technical guy, the most lovable guy, the CEO�s blue eyed boy, every one & I mean almost everyone is worried about their job. I did not know how I was going to handle even though I was prepared before for the worst. But when the time actually came , it�s different, first time I felt I was weak because of the things below which are going in mind.
� I bought a house just few months back, although great deal at the time I bought I had to invest 15% down payment & at that time never ever knew that this day would come. I always thought I could resell it but when I contacted my mortgage broker few days back , he told me that market was so slow that I wont be even getting the 15% down payment if I plan to sell now. With most of my hard earned savings in the house I am only left with couple of grand for reserves.
� The biggest worry I had was 10 days after my daughter was born she was hospitalized for almost a month for complex partial seizures treatment .She has since been in medication & was doing good & slowly outgrowing seizures with occasional episodes. We can�t stop the treatment & thinking of expensive Cobra package & not knowing how many months we will be jobless made me sick.
� How do I invoke AC21 & how many much should I be paying Lawyers?
� My upcoming trip to india, we already spend close to 5k for the tickets & cancelling the tickets is impossible due to family reasons. What if I loose a job now & go on trip to india? Can I enter back on Advance parole? What if the port of entry finds out that I lost a job, will be I allowed in when I come back? Will my company cancel current approved I140? & will that lead to I485 cancellations which has been happening recently ??
� What will happen to my car loans & upcoming car registration, insurance.
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7:16Am: I saw one other manager in the same process in different dept doing the exact same process. Remember, above somewhere I said that it is a open floor plan & everyone can see everything what is happening. Though I am not shaken from outside, inside I feel every inch of it.
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I disagree with you. Per my calculation USCIS should have at-least 158k application with PD 2002 and 2003 (all chargeability, all cat). And yes I have arrived at this number after deducting already approved EB2 and EB3 numbers.
If you do INDIA:CHINA:MEXICO :: 40:30:30 ratio.
The break up of outstanding I485 looks like this
India :- 64k
China :- 47K
As per my calculation Eb3 India do not have good outlook.
Luckily he was sitting next to me in the connecting flight, and now he was telling me the story in a totally different way. " I told the officer what can I do if the photo from the passport fall off".
"I am waiting , but make sure that I get my connecting flight I got a very important meeting"... blah blah..
I was laughing out loud in my heart.. Its quite interesting to see these kind of personalities.
So I know what you gonna do , next time when you meet the border patrol. Accept the fact that we are middle class , god and immigration fearing creatures, who definitely have a lot of anger and aggression towards these laws and discrimination but cannot do anything about it and Also we like the life style and show off to the relatives in the India, that you are smart and rich NRI, are the reasons, we are not leaving this country despite of all these things.
Good to know all this so while travelling just be prepared.. but I dun see a reason for making this coversation of 10 pages thread.
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Remember the GC is for future employement. USCIS can anytime ask the letter to prove the job offer is still there. I know coupld of guys got RFE for the same.
If there is no job, the underlaying I-485 become invalid and so there is no AOS.
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I wasn't goofin off, by choice. I had no option but wait and pray that my employer would find a job for me. I had every reason to bother at his stage, because I invested so much time and money to file my GC. Natually, I am bothered because you never know what USCIS would ask; they are always ready to pull the carpet underneath you. What if IO ask me to prove that I am not out of status ? would I be able to show the proof? No! I can't...
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1. If you are employable in US and you have the skills you will get the job with or without these middlemen. They come into picture only because they can start a corporation and then start the exploitation game. If a bill is taking these guys out what's wrong with it ? This will allow genuine corporations to hire the right candidates.
2. Putting 30 days of ad. to hire US citizens first ? What's wrong with it ? If their skills are really outdated and you are the best and the brightest you will get the job.
If you need more evidence of why H1B program needs reform look no further than H1B cap used up on first day. This has put good undue hard ship for good candidates while Infosys/Wipro etc will once again take the lion's share of H1B numbers. Why do you want them to win at your cost ? Stop calling people affected by this mess as "Racist Engineers". Try to put yourself in their shoes and some of these practices are affecting both the H1B visa holders (with indentured servitude) and citizens with wage depression. No body wins in the end but the people who are exploiting the system.
Open your eyes and look clearly. This bill is designed to put an end to any competition for middle aged racist engineers afraid of competition from people who fit the profile of the membership of IV. Some members on the forum seem to think that this bill contain provisions to protect H-1b workers, but that is not true. This bill is designed to mean that current workers on H-1 are taking away American jobs as the protection proposed by the bill were not there when most of the forum members came on H1b. This bill was written by Ron Hira and IEEE. If nothing else then we need to understand that Ron Hira et al, are not in love with any of us. They represent middle aged racist engineers in US who are scared of competition and globalization. So please stop day dreaming and expecting that this bill would have anything to protect/benefit green card applicants. I understand/share the frustration with body-shoppers/consulting companies. Why whine about consulting companies and, work for them at the same time. If you are so good then why don't you switch jobs. Accenture, PWC, D&T, Bearing Point, Oracle consulting etc. also do consulting, what about them. Supporting this or any other bill from Sen. Grassley is suicidal. It�s acting like the 90% of ignorant Republican base, who earn less than 30K/yr and still support the party that oppose welfare reform and give tax breaks to the richest.
Taking out frustration on consulting companies doesn�t help us. If the green card process would work in the intended manner, none of us will be beholden to the employer. And there will be no room for frustration. Any employer would take advantage of such loopholes in the process where employee is beholden to the employer. But the thing is, employers or consulting companies did not create the currently broken green card process, neither did they create the backlog. The lawmakers, who did not attend to the immigration system for more than a decade, are responsible for the current system. And organizations like IEEE are responsible for opposing any meaningful reform on H1B/green card issues. Now they are using the situation to their advantage by tainting a pictures if we all the people in US, waiting for their green cards, should not have been in US if the system proposed by the bill was in place. And it is astonishing to see people calling to support a bill wihtout knowing its contents. So why blame our problems on consulting companies? You think IEEE drafted this bill for people who match the profile of IV members? This bill was has been drafted with the objective to secure the position of middle aged racist engineers, who do not want to upgrade their skills and who are scared of young minds ready to compete and learn new things.
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No LUD till final approval. Last LUD on I-485 on August 2007 on finger print day. Last week I did call Nebraska by POJ method and speak with IO. She told me my file is off the shelf and in line for adjudication. I think EAD filing on June last week did the trick. (file taken from the USCIS's never ending shelf).
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I am surprised that this thread is still active. Usually by this time somebody from the core group puts a statement and that usually closes the discussion. I am sure this will happen soon since atleast a few posters have been requesting asistance from Pappu regarding this issue. I am just waiting for that post to come...dont know when. Hey pappu why are you taking so long......why dont you post and tell all our friends who are currently so emotional about the reality of pursuing the legal option...
In Iv many people are free riders when they can't contribute money to solve their problem why you guys expect Murthy to do charity work ....
EB1 - all current
EB2 - World current
EB2 - India / China
| ( When above EB2 India/China gets current 2-3years? )
EB3 I/C ( When EB1 , EB2 is Current , all visa numbers will flood to EB3 right ? so may be in 4-5 years EB3 may get current ? )
abc, just one suggestion for you. If you can, hold off until your I-140 gets approved. Once that happens, your 2003 priority date will stick and you can take it with you ( USCIS internal I-140 adjudication manual for your reference ... http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrel...h22_091206R.pdf )
I wish you all the best with your life.
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