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  • Chris Rock
    08-11 03:16 PM
    If there is a non-controversial immi. law change attempt I will donate $500. I will also bring my friends and the total may exceed $2000. We all willing to donate but only if we know that there is good chance of passing.

    If there is an attempt to push ideas like recapture, forget it. It will not pass in this economy. I do not want to waste my money and time on those kind of ideas.

    IMHO. Not to find fault with anyone. Please do not mistake me.





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  • cal_dood
    07-05 03:20 PM
    Since the sentiment is so strong against freeloaders - aren't all the people not donating to AILF freeloaders too ? Let's donate to AILF too while we are at it...





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  • mbawa2574
    02-16 12:06 PM
    You don't get it, do you? I've never talked about you. What I am saying is simply this: If you don't limit the number of immigrants from one country, you essentially become a part of that country with the influx of people coming from there. This is what people in America are afraid of. They can't limit the influx of illegal immigrants from Mexico and other latin america countries, and it is becoming a big deal for them, since they don't want to be forced to learn spanish next time they go to a diner.
    Is it racist? probably so. But remember, it is their country; They make the laws. They can make people dance for 5 minutes at ports of entry while they film it and post it to youtube if they like (see recent articles about search and seizures of returning greencard holders' electronic equipment).



    And who the hell are you to tell me this?


    What did I say? What I mentioned was the natural tendency of people of one language and one common background to gather together and stay together, even though the whole society asks them "Please forget your background and become one of us". How is that racist? This law stops the society to become divided into two factions of 'Us' vs. 'Irish' or 'Us' vs. 'Italians' or 'Us' vs. 'Iranians', etc. There have been several waves of people coming to US for whatever reasons; They are just making sure this doesn't happen again.

    This per country cap law is very much like the tax code. If you change it to favor one class of people, you end up screwing everyone else. The current immigration law favors me, so I am happy. It doesn't favor you, so you are (understandably) unhappy. Calling me racist and trying to chase me out of IV is not going to solve your problem.

    On one side you are praising the bigotry of 1940's and racism and on the other hand talking unity. I am sure you are are looser in your life and now Indians and Chinese are your targets since you don't know the meaning of competition. I am not going to waste my time as I am not even sure who planted you here. If you are really not a non-immigrant phony, please state your contribution to the IV efforts. Otherwise we don't need a racist punk like you. Now get off my back:mad:





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  • clockwork
    08-07 12:06 AM
    Type 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007

    EB1-All 41,672 34,168 14,453 31,291 64,731 36,960 26,697
    EB2-All 42,550 44,316 15,406 32,534 42,597 21,911 44,162
    EB3-All 85,847 88,002 46,415 85,969 129,070 89,922 85,030
    EB-All 179,195 174,968 82,137 155,330 246,878 159,081 155,889

    EB1-I 3,543 2,820 1,266 2,998 6,336 3,156 2,855
    EB2-I 21,355 21,310 8,536 16,262 16,687 3,720 6,203
    EB3-I 16,339 17,354 10,647 19,889 23,250 3,006 17,795
    EB-I 41,720 41,919 20,818 39,496 47,160 17,358 26,853

    Overall EB3 has got more numbers than EB2 in last 7 years for all and india specific grouping.

    Hi Sachug22,
    Some of the data you specified does not add up well. For example 2006 India, EB-total is 17,358 but 3,156+3,720+3,006 adds upto 9882.

    Any idea?

    Type 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007

    EB1-All 41,672 34,168 14,453 31,291 64,731 36,960 26,697
    EB2-All 42,550 44,316 15,406 32,534 42,597 21,911 44,162
    EB3-All 85,847 88,002 46,415 85,969 129,070 89,922 85,030
    EB-All 179,195 174,968 82,137 155,330 246,878 159,081 155,889

    EB1-I 3,543 2,820 1,266 2,998 6,336 3,156 2,855
    EB2-I 21,355 21,310 8,536 16,262 16,687 3,720 6,203
    EB3-I 16,339 17,354 10,647 19,889 23,250 3,006 17,795
    EB-I 41,720 41,919 20,818 39,496 47,160 17,358 26,853


    Thanks



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  • eager_immi
    07-24 07:09 AM
    A guy with visa #current in June, his check got encashed.Guys, check this thread out. sanjay is saying he got his checks cashed.


    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10994&highlight=cheque





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  • wc_user
    02-20 06:16 PM
    Don't worry man! Your coast is near ... I think the EB3 India movement will atleast go to Sept - Oct 2001 . Someone had posted the Labor PD count from May 01 to Dec 01 . (524 in total) . Obviously the unknown which came out of the BEC backlogs makes this situation worse.

    Does anyone want to make a guess of when EB3 India 2002 will become current ? I am thinking of changing the case to EB2.. Should I change my case or should I wait for EB3 to be current ?



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  • nixstor
    07-02 10:50 PM
    I support online petition idea and can get more than 50 friends to sign it.

    Lets start it as soon as possible so it can have an positive impact on those three pending bills that will be presented to Congress this summer.

    Thanks.

    If web faxes to the representatives offices have not made an impact, How will a petition on a third party website will make an impact?

    I don't mean to dampen any one's enthusiasm here but we have been clearly the best ways to make an impact on a law maker's decision are

    (1) Go to their offices and meet their legislative assistant/ aide's
    (2) Call them.

    If you haven't called Rep Smith's office, call now. If you did encourage your friends from San Antonio / Austin area to do so.





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  • zuhail
    03-10 11:54 PM
    If we put the word H1B in the Visa Re-capturing bill, the bill would be doomed. As few have rightly pointed out, it would be taken out of context probably advertised and interpreted as increasing H1B visas.

    If we put the words, eliminating per country limits, it would doomed. The CNN headlines would scream "Indians and Chinese are coming".

    If we put any changes to the current requirements of I-485 filing, it would be interpreted as diluting the existing laws to import more cheap foreign workers faster. The anti-immigration forces would be all over it like a monkey on a cupcake.

    If we keep it simple : Re-capturing unused visa numbers for Employment Based Categories for Foreign Born Professionals already employed in the US legally and in the queue for Permanent Residency, we have a high chance of success.

    IV team please start the fund raising for re-capturing visa numbers. Thanks.



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  • REEF�
    02-13 06:03 PM
    How interesting is a train station? It's probably just me but I can't get any other image of a 3D model in my mind other than a train...

    *punches self*





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  • dionysus
    01-30 05:27 PM
    May be because you opened a thread for people who recently got laid off, USCIS got the whiff.

    I know this is crazy talk, but with the massive super computers, encryption cracking technologies and all that monitoring systems at the disposal of US govt, who know?

    :eek:


    What I am not understanding is - why are they even looking at my case now? There are 4 years of applicants ahead of me, why cant the USCIS process those applications first?

    I have a sickening feeling that this is going to become more and more common in this economic situation. There must a push from above to reduce the backlogs and if they cannot approve the cases they are going to find a way to deny them on some pretext or other.



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  • svr_76
    06-10 02:04 PM
    exactly..and our best approach would be to also reach other lobbying/groups that represents the employers impact by this to determine a directed/specific approach.





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  • deafTunes123
    04-25 10:20 AM
    congratulations eb2 june 2003



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  • file485
    12-22 08:34 AM
    this is our history...

    1.was working with employer B in June 07(when PD was current for EB2/Oct 2003-India)...went to attorney to file 485 with approved 140 thru ex employer A. filled in all the paperwork for 485,but the attorney was asking for a current employment letter from B with exact skills mentioned on labor and the employer B was not ready to give such a letter and hence we planned to find a new employer and file for 485 in July.

    2. In June end found this new current employer C and planned to file 485 in July and all the fiasco scene happened...anyway...in August we filed the 485 with a current employer letter from C with all the skills matching the labor..till here fine.

    NOW...we got a copy of the bunch of 48 documents sent to INS from the atnys office...I had given the latest 325a form

    current employer C : July 07 - current
    employer B : Jan 2006 - June 2007
    employer A : June 2003 - Dec 2005 (who filed for labor/i140)

    the shitty paralegal now submitted the 325a from submitted in June 07 where the current employer B was the latest.... + the current employment letter of C + 485 employment offer letter from A

    She had whitened out the date on the 325a form signed on June 07 and changed it to Aug 07 to my utter shock....

    when I call back..she says we will handle any RFE's...

    quite worried as the 325a form already says something like 'all info disclosed is truthful'... etc and the fine print..

    pls post your thoughts and comments..
    hope I dint confuse





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  • hrushi_j
    09-10 03:27 PM
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  • GCapplicant
    07-02 11:32 AM
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  • VivekAhuja
    07-14 05:57 PM
    Consult an attorney because if you applied for I-485 in July 2007 and quit employer in August, you might not be covered under AC21 since 6 months did not pass since adjucation request (I-485) was files with USCIS.



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  • psaxena
    11-17 06:25 PM
    And you are a perfect desi... who wants to get everything without giving anything and to add on to that provoke others and distract them.

    Nothing is free, and nothing will happen over night. It takes time and political to get these things done.

    Think for a second ..
    how many members are there on IV = More than 30000
    How many donate = less than 200 give or take
    How many yell and suggest and expect that core will leave everything and start working on the suggestion = Everyone

    Now if you are in this situation , where you are not even responsible to do anything for anyone(like desi politician)... would you even do what IV is doing? No, forget that you won't even think of creating IV.

    So you know my next sentence.. keep it low and be out .. or sober up and get in line and be the one to do the right thing so that you can look into your eyes in the mirror next time.




    IV is acting like a desi politician.. paisa do and shut up..we know what we are doing....they refuse to even entertain such alternate remedies.

    like i had said in my earlier post.. If you pay a BYTCH.. she will sing what you want to hear..hence the fake promises of CIR being a reality..and all.. (remember that 588x bill fiasco) and NOW we know..from the horses mouth.. CIR is dead for the near foreseeable future.

    So i think we should pursue alternate reliefs with immediate effect.

    just my 2cents.





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  • pappu
    11-20 01:09 PM
    All pls PM each other and exchange phone numbers and emails so that you can start building your local IV community. Once you have contacted each other, you can start the action items for state chapters.





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  • Googler
    02-21 12:52 PM
    Can the mods please split off these posts about porting to EB-2 to another thread? People who want to discuss converting to EB-2 would you please start another thread, so this one can be devoted to spillovers, visa cutoff movements etc?

    Thanks!





    transpass
    04-10 12:07 PM
    Here are the details for last year and years before:

    (Thanks to user "sangiano" on : link: FY2009 Visa Data, Spillover to EB2 - Will it be Similar FY2010 (http://www..com/usa-discussion-forums/i485-eb/498198953/fy2009-visa-data-spillover-to-eb2-will-it-be-similar-fy2010))

    Employment Visas 2009

    Total Employment Visas for FY2009 = 141,020

    Theoretical values without spillover

    EB1 28.6% = 40,332
    EB2 28.6% = 40,332
    EB3 28.6% = 40,332
    EB4 7.1% = 10,012
    EB5 7.1% = 10,012

    Actual values with spillover

    EB1 40,978 = 29.1% received c.650 spillup visa used
    EB2 46,034 = 32.6% received c.5,700 spillover visas used
    EB3 39,791 = 28.2% received c.550 less visas than quota
    EB4 9,999 = 7.1% Zero spillup visas to give
    EB5 4,218 = 3.0% c. 5,800 spillup visas to give

    What is noteworthy is the fact that spillup/spillover visas were only available from EB5.

    In addition, EB1 actually consumed spillup visas and did not contribute any spillover visas as a result.

    This implies that the total spillover visas available to the 7% limited countries was only c.7,500. Since 5,800 came from EB5, less 650 used by EB1, this gives a subtotal of 5,150. In turn, this implies that there were only 7,500 - 5,150 = 2,350 as spillover from EB2-ROW. In the worst case the difference is entirely from EB5.

    I think it gives food for thought and shows the difficulty of trying to second guess visa consumption in Categories that are always current. I accept it might be easier to get a handle on non-NIW EB2 because of the PERM data available for ROW.

    I'm not sure why FY2010 would be much different, at least for EB1 spillover.

    Additional notes from subsequent posts:


    There was significant spillover in FY2007 because (based on 154,497 total EB visas) :

    EB1 only used 26,806 out of a possible 44,186 available visas.
    EB4 only used 4,794 out of a possible 10,969 available visas.
    EB5 only used 793 out of a possible 10,969 available visas.

    That gives a potential spillover of 33,731 visas to categories below EB1. In FY2007 that mostly went vertically to EB3.

    There was significant spillover in FY2008 because (based on 162,949 total EB visas) :

    EB1 only used 36,590 out of a possible 46,603 available visas.
    EB4 only used 7,648 out of a possible 11,569 available visas.
    EB5 only used 1,443 out of a possible 11,569 available visas.

    That gives a potential spillover of 24,060 visas to categories below EB1. In FY2008 that all went to EB2.

    The amount *was* smaller in FY2009 because (based on 141,020 total EB visas)

    EB1 used 40,978 which was more than the available visas of 40,332 (i.e. it used some of the spillup from EB4/EB5).
    EB4 used 9,999 out of a possible 10,012 available visas. (i.e it pretty much maxed out)
    EB5 only used 4,218 out of a possible 10,012 available visas. (i.e. much higher than previous years)

    That gives a potential spillover to EB2 of 5,161 visas, which is substantially lower than previous years.

    This is all his analysis based entirely on historic data (no predictions here; just what has already happened). All credit of analysis goes to him. I never crunched a single number; I am just an "integrater" of the info. Please also note that now we have found out that the word "spillover" should actually be "fall across and down"

    Hope this was the info you were asking for.

    Thanks Kondur. That was a very good presentation of the numbers. I very much appreciate it.

    Now,

    1. Why did EB1 last year needed spillover visas, although it was current all the time? If a category is current, isn't that it has less demand than allocated numbers?

    2. As per May bulletin, EB4 might need a cut off. So we cannot expect any spillover from EB4. So that is clear. Now the spillover chances are from EB5, EB2 ROW and EB1(?). I am including EB1 because, given the current economy over the past year, should there be a better possibility of more spillover from EB2 ROW and EB1 compared to last year?

    3. Also why are the total EB numbers different in different fiscal years (e.g., 141020 in FY2009, 162949 in FY 2008 and 154497 in FY2007)? In FYs 2007 and 2008 did the extra visas come from Family based while it did not for FY 2009? If so, why is it so?

    4. Based on Pending 485 data of March 2010, I barely see few hundred EB4s. And hardly considerable number of EB1s. What's going on? If we go by this data, we should be getting good chunk of spillover numbers...

    http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Green%20Card/Green%20Card%20Through%20a%20Job/Employment%20Based%20I-485%20Pending%20Inventory-Total%203-8-2010.pdf


    Thanks,





    msyedy
    06-13 01:23 PM
    Senthil1, Pineapple

    Please let us not sound harsh and have a bipartisan :D discussion. It is just my statement I do not disagree with neither of you.

    Rule 2
    You mean Microsoft and Google and other companies want to stop outsourcing. They would not have build a huge team in india if they wanted to do this. The point that you are missing is that they need H1-Bs here because no american born is availabe here to fill those positions.

    Read my statement thoroughly.
    Big consulting companies(Bearing point....my list will go on) that are plenty in the US who hire and fire H1-B and american born if they cannot find another client for them after few days.

    What will happen to these companies .. they have to shut down

    Rule 2 will be a disaster for all these companies.
    These companies do not go to india to get H1-B's they get them when they come here brought by india Desi companies.

    It will be a mess. You might be talking about one company that will never displace and american and will garauntee an employee that he will never be fired once hired : Give me a break.

    What exactly is your point Senthil?
    If by reiterating (over and over) the "evilness" of "desi" companies insofar as impacting American workers is concerned and justifying absurdly and obviously restrictionist bills on the fond hope that it would have minimal impact on the "good" American companies who hire H1s in the exception, you wish to make it clear that you are an employee of the latter set of companies, you have certainly made your point, and do not need 364 posts to hammer it it.
    Ladies and gentlemen, Senthil is a genuine, bona fide high skilled person working for an honest American company which has high ethical standards, and is not, repeat, NOT displacing any son of the soil American.
    There - you can relax now.



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